Curse

Silent Elvin Ranger · Apr 29, 2006, 01:38 AM // 01:38

Well i think this nerf is huge and uncalled for. But heres something for yall to help me with...a new build.

N/R

Vampire minions
horrors
VS
BoTM
Pet
Pet res
oath shot..recharge minions faster and recharge VS
(anything else)

Carry ur normal weapons but also bring a bow to switch to for easy recharge on skills.

Ur army may be small but u may make them last long. Make mostly all vamp horrors to make BoTM more spammable and use oath shot to help out VS. Oath shot may also help keep minion-raising much faster. The pet is to use as extra corpse and to get....10 undead +1 pet = 11 attackers. U also dont need to worry about 1 of ur minions dying =p (pet). This was just a quick idea that popped into my head that helps increase VS recharge, minion recharge, and lack of minions. And also to make BoTM more spammable thanks to vampiric minions.

This is just my idea. Feel free to comment/critisize this idea. Maybe, with more ideas added this build will become "the next best thing".

If a reader decides to make build using my ideas, id like a bit of credit, please.

cheetum · Apr 29, 2006, 02:35 AM // 02:35

well its not really a new idea. MMs have tried using pets before for a portable corpse (in which case its not really an extra attacker since ideally you only keep a low level pet, replacing it when its level gets too high, the lower the level the better for more corpses). oath shot is a nice idea except it will miss 50% of the time since u cant put points into expertise as a necro, and it takes 20 seconds to recharge.

if u want to keep veratas on longer, glyph of renewal is a better option IMO.

however i feel with only 10 minions instead of trying to keep them alive longer with veratas, just let them die and replace them. death nova and taste of death are going to be a mot more popular now in MM builds.

OMFGimCUTE · Apr 29, 2006, 08:05 AM // 08:05

true, oath shot wont be good

Silent Elvin Ranger · Apr 29, 2006, 12:46 PM // 12:46

your right. Well bringing ur pet a a higher lvl may help ur minions. Especially if u only make ranged minions. U can send ur pet to block shots and have minions hit from far away.I just read discription of oath shot...ur right...it wouldn't help.

Rajamic · Apr 29, 2006, 11:55 PM // 23:55

I think the better idea of how to handle the new situation is 2 minions, maybe Flesh Golem as a third, BotM, no VS, and at least 2 skills designed to keep your own health up.

Blood of the Master spammed as hard as it can be will give the same power as more than 15 pips of regen. But since it's not actual regen, it will still work fine, even when the minions go beyond 10 pips of degen. If you can keep your own health up, you could actually maintain your minions outside of battle indefinitely just with BotM.

You just need a way to counter the health sacrifice. I think AotL would work well as a start for that.

Silent Elvin Ranger · Apr 30, 2006, 12:55 AM // 00:55

well if u have factions the vampiric minions healp alot with the health. Maybe echo the vampiric minion for faster army raising. Or as i said before use pet as either portible corpse (low lvl) or an 11th minion (high lvl).

CKaz · Apr 30, 2006, 02:19 AM // 02:19

GoR. Glyph of Renewal. Yeah you use your elite and go N/E.
But then you're all set and have Verata Sac up to every 15sec if you want when your minions are 4+.

Done. No big deal.

Rajamic · Apr 30, 2006, 05:38 AM // 05:38

Screw VS. It's underpowered for countering the levels of Degen undead get to, and BotM spam is considerably more powerful.

Kcp · Apr 30, 2006, 07:33 AM // 07:33

They work perfectly fine. 10 minions mow through most groups of enemies np

Njall · Apr 30, 2006, 12:03 PM // 12:03

I have found the best way to play MM post nerf : 0 in death magic and 16 in Curses

Dr. Fire · Apr 30, 2006, 01:09 PM // 13:09

I am working on a Rt/N that will be all Communing/Death Magic/Spawning. It will be set-up as a MM/Spirits. There is a RT skill that gives you health and energy for everything that you spawn. This includes Necro minions. Best thing is it is a non-elite. I think this build will be pwnalicious. I will update you as I gain lvls and skills. Also I believe that when you make Bone Minions you get the energy and health for both. I will check this out later today when I get in-game. Also BM now only costs 15 energy. I am using them as bombs right now (with death nova) but may switch up as I gain attribute points.

Fargin Scotchsman · Apr 30, 2006, 06:12 PM // 18:12

lol Njall, my thoughts exactly. now im jus a hex spammer

TriX · May 11, 2006, 11:35 AM // 11:35

When pet dies all your skills are disabled for 10 seconds, not a good idea imo. Plus what already has been mentioned about Oath Shot. I started a necro a few days ago and just capped Veretas' skills. I was extremely disappointed when experimenting with it in North Kryta...16dm and only 10 secs 15% sacrifice =\. I do a better job keeping the army alive from battle to battle with Heal Area and Botm. I'm considering a warrior secondary so I can use charge to get to the next mob faster